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20 Feb 2008 1:54 PM Alert 
The horrific misconceptions about genuine trade unionism once again leading to confusion.

The members determine policy upon which their elected representatives act. Paid officers are paid by the members and act in the interests of the members.

Therefore if the majority on the National Committee request the National Secretary and Chairperson no longer converse with a certain individual because of the issues Terry has outlined as genuine trade unionists we observe the request of the majority. It is called trade union discipline.

I have just spoken to Terry and he explained to me what Chris Dukes a GMB full timer) has done helping give a young lad a break. First class performance Chris well done and it really is worth giving Terry a ring to find out yet another thing that has been achieved by being organised.
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20 Feb 2008 2:13 PM Alert 
Mr Jukes is indeed a splendid fellow as well as being a model trade unionist.

I cannot congratulate him on getting someone licensed who the council had reservations about without knowing the facts of the case .................. and the simple fact that I have no involvement in any organisations now so there is no reason for me to be involved.

I do though doubt that Chris would have argued the case if the circumstances were really bad.

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20 Feb 2008 5:02 PM Alert 

Is this the Bandit who came to Brighton to the founding meeting, who was introduced to the GMB in the North East, the man who made many points in many arena's about the need to get organised. The man I thought was tough enough to get the industry organised in the North East

Surely I must have misread this, running from the struggle, don't agree with you on a lot of things but I didn't have you down as a runner

Whats it like to run away

 

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20 Feb 2008 6:07 PM Alert 
AS AN ASIDE,I THOUGHT THAT THE FOLLOWING MIGHT AMUSE YOU ALL.every metropolitan police officer breaks the law every day!!!!! and does not realise it,for it is an offence for any police officer to impeed the passage of a member of the public along the footpath.The peel act of!!!!was brought about in days when consables were issued with long batons which were used to beat the kerbside and summon assistance,police officers were not allowed to walk along the footpath, but had to walk on the highway/carriage way
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20 Feb 2008 8:45 PM Alert 
Posted By South London Cab on 20 Feb 2008 5:02 PM

Is this the Bandit who came to Brighton to the founding meeting, who was introduced to the GMB in the North East, the man who made many points in many arena's about the need to get organised. The man I thought was tough enough to get the industry organised in the North East

Surely I must have misread this, running from the struggle, don't agree with you on a lot of things but I didn't have you down as a runner

Whats it like to run away

 

Tell me I've misread this

Hey SLC .................... you have no idea of my personal situation, nor have you any idea of what I am capable of personally or professionally .................... I would tread carefully my friend.

My mate "Wolfie" is aware of many of my circumstances ..................... I don't feel the need to discuss my problems with you ........................ because you give the impression that you only get involved with things that will benefit you.

It's up to you whether you agree or disagree with me ..................... but what is clear is that I wouldn't recieve any benefit from being part of an organisation which involved someone as shortsighted as you.

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20 Feb 2008 9:07 PM Alert 
Agreed but still enough vision to predict the entirely predictable response

You will have to excuse me for the next couple of days tied up the education pilot project for drivers that we are short sightedly organising and having a sort out with the BBC on the short sighted campaign on driver safety

Long live the independent men of vision who have made this industry what it is today
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20 Feb 2008 9:31 PM Alert 
Only at pilot stage .................... I can remember that part ..................... we are well ahead of that ................. in fact we are looking to make changes to the process and route to qualification ........................... but thats enough of that.

I'm not getting into a competition at this time .................... but needless to say, your reluctance to aquire the available information before engaging your foul mouth will lead to success ................................... sorry only joking.

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20 Feb 2008 9:33 PM Alert 
Critisised for putting my family first ............ and the ridiculed for doing so.

Is that the official stance of the GMBPDB ?

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20 Feb 2008 10:43 PM Alert 
Bandit.. I see the noisy minority are criticising you.. or shall I say turning on you ....... it is because they are about to lose your ideas... without them they have nothing... it is a shame to see the GMB represented by morons...... childish ones at that.....
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21 Feb 2008 12:37 AM Alert 
Posted By South London Cab on 20 Feb 2008 9:07 PM
Agreed but still enough vision to predict the entirely predictable response

You will have to excuse me for the next couple of days tied up the education pilot project for drivers that we are short sighted organising and having a sort out with the BBC on the short sighted campaign on driver safety

Long live the independent men of vision who have made this industry what it is today



SLC what sort of response is that ffs have you got to consult with the puppeteer before you give an intelligent answer pmsl.Never the less it is noted how short sighted you lot are  that is why you are a mini cab driver and not independent YOU STILL NEED TO BE HELD BY THE HAND TO CROSS THE ROAD FFS

Anything to do with the empire building of your union is not credible on this site,ffs why oh why dont you use your own forum or is it because you use other forums to increase your membership ha ha ha pmsl

BTW Bandit i respect your vocation and attitude look after yourself now you are independent

 

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21 Feb 2008 1:16 AM Alert 
If ever there was an honest hard working trade unionist then SLC is he.
That's the problem with these forums they all work on a tit-for-tat sort of basis.
People get the wrong end of things(probably including me ) and then get the hump about some perceived slight or other.
What we all really want of course is a safer, better , more professional industry where everybody has the chance to make a decent living by giving a decent service, without working ridiculously long hours.
We all simply have different ways of trying to achieve it.
Time will tell which approach is more effective.
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21 Feb 2008 7:20 AM Alert 
Luckily I'm a young man, with as many years left in the trade as I've already done.

Maybe thats why some struggle with my opinions ............. who knows.

I can handle criticism because I don't profess to know everything or put myself up as an expert ............. I only consider myself to have a basic understanding.

The fact that I work for money to keep my family, just like everyone else, seems to have been lost here. They are my priority now, and they will remin so as I came far to close to losing them because I would come off the road and fight for the rights of those who seem so willing to criticise.

Anyway, good luck everyone,

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21 Feb 2008 9:57 AM Alert 
Posted By Charlie on 21 Feb 2008 12:37 AM
Posted By South London Cab on 20 Feb 2008 9:07 PM
Agreed but still enough vision to predict the entirely predictable response

You will have to excuse me for the next couple of days tied up the education pilot project for drivers that we are short sighted organising and having a sort out with the BBC on the short sighted campaign on driver safety

Long live the independent men of vision who have made this industry what it is today



SLC what sort of response is that ffs have you got to consult with the puppeteer before you give an intelligent answer pmsl.Never the less it is noted how short sighted you lot are  that is why you are a mini cab driver and not independent YOU STILL NEED TO BE HELD BY THE HAND TO CROSS THE ROAD FFS

Anything to do with the empire building of your union is not credible on this site,ffs why oh why dont you use your own forum or is it because you use other forums to increase your membership ha ha ha pmsl

 

BTW Bandit i respect your vocation and attitude look after yourself now you are independent

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That's the problem with these forums they all work on a tit-for-tat sort of basis.
People get the wrong end of things(probably including me ) and then get the hump about some perceived slight or other.
What we all really want of course is a safer, better , more professional industry where everybody has the chance to make a decent living by giving a decent service, without working ridiculously long hours.
We all simply have different ways of trying to achieve it. 

These forums are a good source of information for people in the trade and newcomers wanting some insight on the trade . Maybe all of us should post "without prejudice or insult" ( Including me ).
Could we not post useful information that can be beneficial to the reader that has common ground ( and promote safety and professionalism ) without the mention of unions or having to acquire membership to obtain information.
This sort of forum should be an area of common ground instead of the war ground that it is.

I know you posted in jest Charlie but the fact remains that the forum is been used to attempt increase membership for the GMB and maybe if we used this forum to assist one another on a more independent level we could start to see the hills beyond the clouds.

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21 Feb 2008 12:47 PM Alert 

Stevie i agree with what you say but alas all would have been cleared up quite some time ago only if the branch president had not been so awkward towards me for having an oppinion of my own and telling me to shut my big mouth,unfortunately for him and the other puppets and the puppeteer i told them then that i would not roll over onto my back and let them tickle my belly and neither shall  let them pull my strings.

 

 

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22 Feb 2008 4:36 PM Alert 

Oh Dear

 

Clearly hit the nail on the head there

The question, what sort of post was that, is easily answered. One that touched a raw nerve and created a knee jerk response from the anti union brigade.

The only regret that I have is that once again you Bandit have misinterpreted things and nobody is having a go at you for putting your family first. Don't make the same mistake a lot of us have by not doing that.

You are not being ridiculed either you are being critized for siding with the idiotic childishness of the independence argument when you above all others Know better.

The two bob chiselling fleet operators and proprietors who make a living out of the misery of the drivers who are scraping a living and working to keep every other Tom Dick and Harry in employment are bound to attack organisation or anything else that is likely to get the drivers a fairer deal and eat into the money they have purloined.

And just to make it clear that isn't a go at the scrupulous elements in the industry who work hard to give drivers a fair deal.

In addition to these unscrupulous elements that you can't expect any better from there are the sad elements on here whose brains have been completely shot as a result of the job, the Daily Mail, The Sun, Soaps, or whatever else it is that has reduced their brains to pulp

You know better and you know what needs to be done. If you can't do it in one part of the country because of family commitments fair enough but don't go urging others to do what you know is wrong.

I have no intention of telling you to go and boil your face in a pot of pxxx or any of the other delightful insults we have incurred for trying to help get the industry organised and therefore capable of forcing improvements for drivers. I have no intention of making thinly veiled threats, you carry on doing what you know to be wrong and you live with your conscience.

 

Great day today and the BBC publicity in relation to the safety campaign will be televised in a month or so we will keep you posted.

The assessment for the pilot project the day before was tough going though and there needs to be a good deal of work developing it further. It was good to be with extremely helpful community education people

Providers and the papers they had obtained from certain Northern education providers shows that there has been good work going on in other parts of the county for both sides of the industry.

We also found out about the turnouts and it would appear that there is a common problem based on the saying that when the wheels are not turning we are not earning.

Hope to see the mayor with one of the education providers next week.

In the meantime the unscrupulous elements on here who pose as radical reformers will continue to parasite a living off of the backs of the drivers while claiming to try and unite the industry (under their leadership of course). They will continue to argue their independence line against the union, against any other form of organisation and therefore by default against the industry and especially the drivers.

We are not asking drivers to join up just go back and look over some of the ludicrous posts the cream of the industry have put on here.

 

 

 

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22 Feb 2008 5:43 PM Alert 
Posted By South London Cab on 22 Feb 2008 4:36 PM

Oh Dear

 

Clearly hit the nail on the head there

The question, what sort of post was that, is easily answered. One that touched a raw nerve and created a knee jerk response from the anti union brigade.

The only regret that I have is that once again you Bandit have misinterpreted things and nobody is having a go at you for putting your family first. Don't make the same mistake a lot of us have by not doing that.

You are not being ridiculed either you are being critized for siding with the idiotic childishness of the independence argument when you above all others Know better.

The two bob chiselling fleet operators and proprietors who make a living out of the misery of the drivers who are scraping a living and working to keep every other Tom Dick and Harry in employment are bound to attack organisation or anything else that is likely to get the drivers a fairer deal and eat into the money they have purloined.

And just to make it clear that isn't a go at the scrupulous elements in the industry who work hard to give drivers a fair deal.

In addition to these unscrupulous elements that you can't expect any better from there are the sad elements on here whose brains have been completely shot as a result of the job, the Daily Mail, The Sun, Soaps, or whatever else it is that has reduced their brains to pulp

You know better and you know what needs to be done. If you can't do it in one part of the country because of family commitments fair enough but don't go urging others to do what you know is wrong.

I have no intention of telling you to go and boil your face in a pot of pxxx or any of the other delightful insults we have incurred for trying to help get the industry organised and therefore capable of forcing improvements for drivers. I have no intention of making thinly veiled threats, you carry on doing what you know to be wrong and you live with your conscience.

 

Great day today and the BBC publicity in relation to the safety campaign will be televised in a month or so we will keep you posted.

The assessment for the pilot project the day before was tough going though and there needs to be a good deal of work developing it further. It was good to be with extremely helpful community education people

Providers and the papers they had obtained from certain Northern education providers shows that there has been good work going on in other parts of the county for both sides of the industry.

We also found out about the turnouts and it would appear that there is a common problem based on the saying that when the wheels are not turning we are not earning.

Hope to see the mayor with one of the education providers next week.

In the meantime the unscrupulous elements on here who pose as radical reformers will continue to parasite a living off of the backs of the drivers while claiming to try and unite the industry (under their leadership of course). They will continue to argue their independence line against the union, against any other form of organisation and therefore by default against the industry and especially the drivers.

We are not asking drivers to join up just go back and look over some of the ludicrous posts the cream of the industry have put on here.

 

 

I would suggest you think what you have typed before you post it SLC..
So your saying "  Meaning Independent drivers I take it ?..”.radical reformers will continue to parasite a living off of the backs of the drivers while claiming to try and unite the industry (under their leadership of course). "
How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
You are as mad as your leader...I can assure you that I am no parasite that lives off the back any driver.
I am a legitimate Hackney Carriage Proprietor that works on an Independent basis ( to a high standard )...and that’s my choice.
I would be careful about how you categorize members, not having a clue about the driver’s professional ability.

You have not got a clue....and I am not about to sit here and educate you on professional aspects.
So now everybody that is not a GMB member is a parasite a living off of the backs of the drivers ?????

  Bye for now crazy man

Steve

 

 


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22 Feb 2008 7:17 PM Alert 
It's obvious to see that our friend is thinking to himself...... I can make this into well-paid job for myself.... sit on my fat backside and milk the drivers as they come into the trade.... I shudder to think of what kind of training they would receive in such an idiot hands....
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22 Feb 2008 7:33 PM Alert 
Nah Trevor your shower tried that, we work for our members, which is what terrifies you remember your QUOTE "i dont want my drivers in a union it would be intrusive" too true in your case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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22 Feb 2008 10:01 PM Alert 
Terry you are a liar.... no more need be said.
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23 Feb 2008 12:09 AM Alert 

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Nah Trevor your shower tried that, we work for our members, which is what terrifies you remember your QUOTE "i dont want my drivers in a union it would be intrusive" too true in your case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I would not want any of my drivers to join a union either.
Not out of fear...out of respect for the drivers, that could become victims.

I also would hate to work at any establishment where union membership came part of the entry deal.

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