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27 Jan 2008 3:30 AM Alert 
The PCO in London refer to the London private hire as their business.. you're simply a means of putting money in their pockets...
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27 Jan 2008 8:54 AM Alert 

He he he PMSL btw i suspect a monetary reward drops through the pockets of some Nick that are less favorable than you or myself.

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27 Jan 2008 10:18 AM Alert 

I would appear to me that the advice and guidance in relation to the cunning stunt that can only discredit what is the germ of a good idea is being spurned.

Testing in levels of driving skills is clearly a good idea but it is necessary for a full discussion and debate within the industry first.

I wouldn't mind betting this hasn't been seriously debated among the representative and so called representative organisations within the industry

Should it be a two tier testing system, one for private hire and one for hacks or are we moving towards a completely integrated trade as some have suggested. Should it or they, the tests, incorporate topographical testing, testing in relation to customer care or any other disciplines or should it be separate. Who pays and who tests, how do we ensure the tests are uniform as far as feasible etc

 

It would be ridiculous to debate for ever and a day, nearly as ridiculous as to put in a lot of work getting signatures on a half baked petition to the PM that won't even raise an eyebrow of the civil servant who throws it in the bin.

That isn't to say that it is a bad idea, its just saying lets work out a few of the details and how a successful campaign can be conducted before we embark on it

 

As for Steve's comments on Thatcher I never thought I would live to see the day when such crap came out of a Geordie

I can remember miner’s wives from Monkweirmouth ( I’ve probably spelled that wrong so you can have a go at that if your afraid of addressing the real issues) colliery around Labour and trade union meetings in London during the great strike, raising money and collecting food, standing on the street with them and outside football grounds with collection buckets.

 

A tremendous response from working people who were putting in fivers and tenners. Insults and threats from the city slicker scum you refer to as entrepreneurs (once they had realised it was only four women and a skinny kid doing the collection)

The reason this country is in the state it is today is the shallow city ponces and bankers, thieves and parasites who chisel a living off of the backs of ordinary working people.

In the overall scheme of things the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb parliamentary politics is to some extent an irrelevance, the government is only there to administrate and facilitate on behalf of big business and the City of London while creating the illusion of democracy for the Muppets who think that voting every five years for who is going to push you about is democracy.

The real reason this country is in a mess is the inevitable debt crisis that must come to a head at some point in time. It was sparked by the US sub prime mortgage crisis that spread through the global economy manifesting itself most graphically in this country in the Northern Rock crisis.

There is debt corruption and exploitation infesting our economy and it is of very little relevance if either tweedle dee or tweedle dumb is facilitating the next rip off in return for party donations via a third party.

 

There will be a serious recession next year that could go on for some time. That will have a detrimental effect on us as it is always the little luxuries that go first like a cab.

If you fail to understand anything in this post it must be because I am an idiot so probably the best thing to do will be to find a spelling mistake and talk about that

 

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27 Jan 2008 1:24 PM Alert 
Steve do you really think that burke could absorb any of that, I have never in my life met a non football fan, tory spouting Geordie it took the cab industry to find such an ameoba, nuff said. Still I suppose even some of the greatest of communities and the Geordies are! must have one or two morons amongst them?????????????????????? No half measures this ones a classic specimen, perhaps in the course of time it will be stuffed and exhibited in a Museum??????????????

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27 Jan 2008 1:29 PM Alert 

Three men  South London Cabby,GMB Secretary,and Charlie the paper lad.are all granted a wish by a genie.SLC wished for all the referrals from new taxi sales and new membership to come to him.In a flash his wish was granted.

 

 

GMB secretary was amazed,and asked the genie to build a huge wall around all of his union membership 150ft high and 250ft thick to stop any unwanted people getting into his promised land,In a flash a wall appeared to help protect.

 

Charlie the paper lad smiled from ear to ear took a fag from Terry's box lit the Marlboro light walked a safe distance and asked for the wall to be filled with fcuk£n water.

 

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27 Jan 2008 2:02 PM Alert 
Jesus Christ and I'm worried that people don't understand what I'm on about. Hard drugs really do mess people’s minds up and I would strongly suggest you think about what sort of Charlie you are doing Charlie. Lose your marbles completely and you are going to be in a very dark and lonely place that one wouldn’t wish on anybody even halfwits like you.

Now might I suggest you clear your mind and tell us what you are talking about or at least consider professional help before it's too late?
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28 Jan 2008 6:48 AM Alert 
He he he PMSL its hard to believe that grown men that are reps for the GMB get themselves upset at jokes about a Genie ffs i never thought they could take it serious but they truly must still believe in Genies are these really grown men.....?????


Btw all these threats of libelous actions and trying to drag licensed drivers into threatening behavior then to report them to the l/a are very extreme actions indeed just about shows the true colours IMO of the elected......??????


You suggest i need professional help can you recomend your own ....??????
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29 Jan 2008 1:54 AM Alert 

So for now please do not forget the post Topic....

 

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/TaxiDrivingTest/

 

 

Steve..THE INDEPENDENT DRIVER

 


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29 Jan 2008 9:20 AM Alert 
Steve,

A few quick questions... What about the cost implication for drivers taking this advanced course?

Would you propose that all drivers should take this course? Even those who have been driving for 30 years? Or only new-comers to the trade?

I have been in the back of some PH vehicles where I am surprised that they even have a license, let alone charged with the safety of their public passengers!

Best of luck with your petition, I can understand where you are coming from. My concern would be the impact this would have on existing drivers when the general opinion seems to be it's hard enough to make a living as it is... without asking them to shell out for lessons/courses/tests.

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29 Jan 2008 11:27 AM Alert 
PETE.a voice of reason at last,you quite rightly point out the same reasons raised by Terry, in respect of Steves petition which in my opinion has been posted without considering the impact on already overstretched drivers.Grandfather rights for drivers are a thing which should be considered for existing drivers,especially those with a proven safety record.A man called Les Shaw created a petition about cabs having access to bus lanes in London,again without thinking through the process and due mainly to the vast majority of concerned ie; drivers apathy the petition only produced 800 signatures.I believe as does Steve that we should all strive to make our profession safer for us and our customers.Steve perhaps you can give a costing regarding your test,obviously including loss of earnings etc,etc.The gmb professional drivers branch are ready to assist any member in improving thier skills and are currently running national campaigns to this end (PLEASE DONT BITE) we are there to help.should you wish to discuss further please pm me or ring 07956-884-076 regards Don
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29 Jan 2008 4:59 PM Alert 
No-ones critiscising the motive, one we all share a professional skilled trade, this act was and will be counterproductive. Not to worry will be meetring the minister responsible shortly and should be able to repair some of the damage! Wont be taking ANY INDEPENDENTS WITH ME THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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30 Jan 2008 10:17 PM Alert 
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 29 Jan 2008 4:59 PM
No-ones critiscising the motive, one we all share a professional skilled trade, this act was and will be counterproductive. Not to worry will be meetring the minister responsible shortly and should be able to repair some of the damage! Wont be taking ANY INDEPENDENTS WITH ME THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OK..Once again I have came back to see THE GMB fancy themselves to be in control of all Taxi drivers destiny.
Pete thanks for your post mate BUT...I really do not have to go into the details because there is a reason above all that the test is implemented. ( Not to mention that these GMB brothers are only looking for tips )....The UNREAL fireside drivers squad........
look I have just got back from a long journey so I will (maybe alter this when I give it more thought) give a more clear reasonable explanation but then I might not.......Because ONCE AGAIN the GMB seems to think they are the main figure head speaking for all of us in the trade....( NOTICE THE BIT I WROTE "In the Trade" )......Not the tw@ts that shout and sing but do not actually drive.
Its alright making changes for the best but ....the best for what ? The  GMB or the trade ?
Are you mental ( not you Pete unless your one of the shit pit ?)... these silly twats.....
ONCE AGAIN I WILL state, This is the only public transport industry that requires no entry level driving test.
like the days bus drivers ( and yes I am a bus driver as well ) did not need any test until we realized "HEY this is really different from a car and we carry loads of people so we need to be trained.......AND SO WE WERE.. no problem..
Like TAXIS and PH ..Listen..the amount of hours we drive and the amount of people we carry as passengers justifies a test..regardless on who we are or how good we may think we can drive. WHATS THE MATTER ? did you pass the first L test by luck ? can you not drive that good anymore ? Payment ....Its nothing if it can and will eventually save lives...YOU GMB NUTTERS..
And before you make any proposals mate have you done the tests ? I have.... I can tell applicants what it is like....so take your experience in the meetings you will have that will directly effect public safety.....( What experience ? They are not DRIVERS )...
I will say this once more   "IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY" we need to up the standards.
Nevermind who is paying for the test....nevermind grandpas rights...

TERRY...I will quote you on the bit I have added to the top of this post....
should be able to repair some of the damage!
The only damage here on in will be a direct result of GMB interference....

I take this as a direct insult to publics safety...you hold your fookin GMB shit above safety standards ?
SO LETS GET THIS RIGHT..what we have here..
You think its a good idea to petition for a driving test....
You now think there is other issues at stake apart from safety....? ( Is it non GMB drivers making decent decisions  ?)
You seem to think because a driver has driven for years he or she is a capable driver....
And that an accident free ( LUCKY ) driver is capable of been equivalent to the standards of an advanced driver..... ?
So You go against me wanting to provide the capability to raise standards that will preserve human life.....?
You can not accept that the GMB is not needed to have this implemented can you...and why because you never began the crusade that is so important...PUBLIC SAFETY.
Stick this in your magazine mate...BUT remember straying away from the meaning of the original wording can be slanderous.

YOU GMB LOT....you can kiss my independent arse " and it will not be a kiss goodbye" this is one thing that Me as an independent driver can show the public what Taxi drivers stand for "SAFETY" not fookin GMB Brownie points and subs..

What can I expect coming on a site that is mainly GMB botty bandits licking each others arses so that they can look good in there gang.....
Flanigan this is your fault.....your mental..and it rubs off on the other knob jockeys that join you.

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30 Jan 2008 10:30 PM Alert 

I know the GMB members will find it hard but here is a little something to help your basic stupidity....



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31 Jan 2008 3:34 PM Alert 
If you really want to know how to launch a serious campaign which is generally done after a couple of months proper discussion and agreement on the best way forward and the appropriate research go to www.gmbproffessionaldriversbranch.co.uk and look under drivers safety campaign
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31 Jan 2008 7:36 PM Alert 
Taxis we dont disagree with any of your aspirations Re public safety, on the 19 Feb when i meet the minister we will be discussing SAFETY, including TESTS however as Pete pointed out the methods of implication need to be agreed most importantly by those that will have to take them!

Your jumping the gun will in my opinion, and surely i am entitled to one? after driving for 12 years and having been ELECTED to National Organiser GMB PDB s. is that its counter productive. Now i see no reason for the barrarge of personal insults, and will not respond in that manner.

Perhaps when you visit the Minister you can put it your way??????????????????


Steve organising is of course absolutely essential some it seems are incapable of absorbing that message! Never mind today I have done 4 Radio interviews on our campaign on driver safety, for different parts of the country, proving the power and influence of the GMB?

Another section in Brighton is about to have a major bust up with the Tory Brighton council, over their percieved illegal actions! no doubt if we were all independent all these things would be being dealt with?????????????

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05 Feb 2008 9:48 AM Alert 
STEVE,i have just checked on the progress of the petition,and note that as usual the apathy bug seems to have arisen again .This is exactly the reason behind my previous remarks about thinking things through.drivers will not be interested in sitting another driving exam due to costs and the time off the road factors,unless compensation for the latter is certain.37 signatures to date.....i doubt if at termination point,500 will have signed,sad to say but we told you so.
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05 Feb 2008 5:35 PM Alert 
Posted By GMB BRANCH PRESIDENT on 05 Feb 2008 9:48 AM
STEVE,i have just checked on the progress of the petition,and note that as usual the apathy bug seems to have arisen again .This is exactly the reason behind my previous remarks about thinking things through.drivers will not be interested in sitting another driving exam due to costs and the time off the road factors,unless compensation for the latter is certain.37 signatures to date.....i doubt if at termination point,500 will have signed,sad to say but we told you so.



Not really.... seems I have not advertised the petition anywhere as yet...NOTE THE CLOSING DATE...
With respect....
I am not going to allow any union that only puts the majority forward to be the official body of this trade.
I think the GMB is looking at this as a two dimensional issue ....when I can see the 3D version with a load of more angles than what meets the eye.
Please remember..Drivers views and opinions need to be looked at even if they fall in the minority.....
And the GMB does not offer the drivers to be heard in a true representation unless they are willing to "follow the flow" of the majority.

But please do not be too concerned about my methods or welfare....There is things I can do as an independent driver that the unions will not and can not offer me....And who knows___There might even be a time when Drivers will eventually see if they become involved instead of just ranting and leaving things to unions that have no real impact on there lively hood or working standards...They can also succeed and route a path to live there ambitions.

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05 Feb 2008 8:06 PM Alert 
Is there any truth in the rumour that Gordon Brown called an emergency cabinet meeting when he found out the thirty seventh signature had been obtained.

Get one of the other non union, independent drivers to lend you a dog, you and the dog could hold a mass meeting and that would really notch up the pressure.

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05 Feb 2008 8:36 PM Alert 
SLC you are cruel but accurate, stupid unthought out stunts like this will only destroy the credibility of the industry. thankfully we the GMBPDBs have the ability to on behalf of the majority [democracy] to explain the amateurism and ignorance of some of the STUPID so called independent PHILISTINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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05 Feb 2008 9:29 PM Alert 

I hear that two independant Taxi drivers are forming a group to plan similar tactics to raise issues for the industry in future

 

They are going to call themselves the cunning stunts


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