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| 05 Jan 2008 12:41 AM |
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The standard of driving on our roads is well below average.
I am going to be direct in my thoughts and see what you think.
The motor vehicle is one of the most potentially dangerous things known to man in the wrong hands.
The volume of traffic on the road is increasing daily.
Technology advancement by vehicle manufacturers means that most vehicles on the road now categorize as high performance.
(Meaning once upon a time 1.1cc meant slow now it means 90mph plus capabilities).
The L test means you are now beginning to learn in my world and you can not argue with that.
A high percentage of newly passed L drivers strongly believe that they are good qualified drivers because they have passed the L test.
Road users / Drivers that have driven on public roads for years that have only passed the L test think they know it all because of the time period that has lapsed since there test. ( You know the I have driven for years sentence ) and the even better sentence ( I am a great driver , I have never had a crash).... YET
This makes me think in this day and age it has to be in the interest of public safety to have a re-test / assessment for all drivers.
The country is allowing people to drive cars as they want to not how they should and this is putting lives at risk and indirectly endangering myself and my families lives.
Why on earth is there not a re-assessment or re-test every (3 to 5 ) years for all drivers ?
NOT JUST TAXI DRIVERS
This would eliminate physical defects like poor eye sight and illness that restrict drivers in the required levels to be on the road (that drivers ignore as there is no checks done on driver capability).
What do you think ?
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| 05 Jan 2008 12:49 AM |
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I think that if we are expecting to be considered professional then we need to be better than the average.
But I think the constant reviewing of standards within our industry are the way forward ................. and you know you have my support for that. |
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Taxis
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| 05 Jan 2008 1:04 AM |
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Its not just taxi drivers that need an entry level test Mick.
Its the other drivers on the roads that drive dangerous and are driving with defects on there person that are also a concern.
The DSA are ok at testing first time car drivers to entry level ........
The only way it would work is if there was progressive testing before a full license was given.
We need to make sure all drivers on the roads maintain a high standard of awareness, planning and safety. But they all think they are all to good behind the wheel of a car to be taught.
And why should drivers be bothered about re-assessment or test ? Did they pass there L test by luck and could never preform that crap again ?
Its peoples lives at risk so why doesn't the government improve the system and ensure all drivers are up to a required standard ?
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| 05 Jan 2008 1:23 AM |
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The airline industry has regular checking and training for pilots.
However the public regard a dvla licence as a right almost and stop thinking once they have passed the test.
The DSA Taxi Test asks for drivers who can "anticipate and make allowances for others mistakes"!!!!!!!!!!
What about gradually raising the age for driving from 17 to 21 over the next 10 years or so.
Insist on limitations for newly passed drivers such as "P" plates for a year , no overtaking, only one passenger in the car and NO music to distract them, a subsequent assessment at the end of a year to check whether they are ok to be given a full licence
I know some of this is strong stuff but I think it would improve things on the road,
Also I think the DfT should spend money on "reminder" type adverts such as the ones from The Mayor of London's office on road safety. eg please remember to use your effing indicators then I wouldn't have to guess what you are planning to do! |
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Taxis
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| 05 Jan 2008 1:26 AM |
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Before anyone criticizes this suggestion please give it a chance.
There is honestly another world of driving out there
I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM AND I DO NOT GAIN IN ANY WAY BUT PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO VIEW THE FOLLOWING LINK.
http://www.iam.org.uk/
If you are interested in road safety and improving standards please look at
http://www.advanced-driving.co.uk/bb/index.php
It is a forum dedicated to advanced driving, you will find some real nice educated people there that is more than willing to assist and help.
All the members have the same objective and unlike other forums there is little conflict.
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| 05 Jan 2008 2:21 AM |
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Posted By allo allo on 05 Jan 2008 1:23 AM
The airline industry has regular checking and training for pilots.
However the public regard a dvla licence as a right almost and stop thinking once they have passed the test.
The DSA Taxi Test asks for drivers who can "anticipate and make allowances for others mistakes"!!!!!!!!!!
Allo Allo The remark you made "However the public regard a dvla license as a right almost and stop thinking once they have passed the test." is SPOT ON. !
That puts it in a nutshell.
The bit you wrote "The DSA Taxi Test asks for drivers who can "anticipate and make allowances for others mistakes"!!!!!!!!!!" I am not to sure of...as it is not a real advanced test. It seems to be between the L test and advanced test. Still based on DSA L standards that in real life driving is correct but ( how can i say this ) "not advanced enough "...Sorry but it is DSA and they seem to have a rule book on how to drive that is good on the The DSA Taxi Test / assessment but there is room for improvement. ( After passing the DSA Taxi test you feel like you have just passed your STANDARD driving test again.)
SO WHAT...we can all do that if we try. or can we ?
Why not extend this to a level of Superior driving ? Why not see what you are really capable of ?
Be tested by a grade 1 police (Traffic driver) ! An advanced course with IAM will allow this to happen
and come on it will cost you MAX £85 for all the benefits, tuition and test.
I personally was afraid to pass the test in-case this instruction ended ! But my observer has told me once I am a member I am more than welcome to attend and do my 2 hours as normal simply because "I am a member".
Steve
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| 05 Jan 2008 2:34 AM |
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Posted By allo allo on 05 Jan 2008 1:23 AM
What about gradually raising the age for driving from 17 to 21 over the next 10 years or so.
Insist on limitations for newly passed drivers such as "P" plates for a year , no overtaking, only one passenger in the car and NO music to distract them, a subsequent assessment at the end of a year to check whether they are ok to be given a full licence
I know some of this is strong stuff but I think it would improve things on the road,
Also I think the DfT should spend money on "reminder" type adverts such as the ones from The Mayor of London's office on road safety. eg please remember to use your effing indicators then I wouldn't have to guess what you are planning to do!
This all makes perfect sense to me what you have wrote !
So why do road users have to put up with the current system ? Is it because the government are not bothered about road standards ? Well come on is the moral of the post incorrect ?
NO NO and NO so stop all the fanny talk and lets get down to making our roads safer for all of us and our family's.
Steve
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| 05 Jan 2008 4:14 PM |
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Greate debate, but whats missing?????????? The org to put the agreed policy to government, but no its not this is just the line UNIONS are designed for. If the current impostors were of any value all of this would have been pushed through. You know the message to achieve all this and much more come and build the GMBPDBs. Would 112 MPs be of any use??????????? 1000s of cllrs???
12MEPs ???????????? no your better off on your OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 06 Jan 2008 3:58 PM |
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Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 05 Jan 2008 4:14 PM
Greate debate, but whats missing?????????? The org to put the agreed policy to government, but no its not this is just the line UNIONS are designed for. If the current impostors were of any value all of this would have been pushed through. You know the message to achieve all this and much more come and build the GMBPDBs. Would 112 MPs be of any use??????????? 1000s of cllrs???
12MEPs ???????????? no your better off on your OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN POLICIES CREATED BY THE MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would not say I am better off on my own !
I would say I would like to watch and learn how associations and unions act and see if there proposals are whole hearted and how they go about getting the job done.
I have a very open mind regarding representation....But until I know enough I would hate to make the wrong decision.
There is other groups that have strong views on this matter and there sole propose is to achieve road safety.
As far as the Taxi trade goes that is a different matter.
Steve
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| 07 Jan 2008 10:27 AM |
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I see where your coming from. but if your not present at the debate or at least party to it how do you formulate your own policy?
surely its about being organised to receive, digest, and debate all issues? Which is exactly what UNIONS do, and of course they might get access to the decision takers? Other groups that only want to achieve road safety, what a terrible thing! but i see your point we dont want the push bike crew dominating do we? So of course Unions have continious dialogue with these associations to enable sensible regulations to be put forward, and whose missing normally Hack and PH drivers! Dont sit back be involvded, its your industry they will regulate, with or without your input but with it it might just be a little more sensible?????????????/.
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