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08 Feb 2008 10:28 AM Alert 

The only people belittling themselves on this site are the anti union brigade who seem determined to keep the industry in the Middle Ages.

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08 Feb 2008 11:44 AM Alert 

Furthermore if you take the trouble to look at the thread properly you will see that Terry, Don and myself all acknowledged that the lad had a good idea but that it needed to be debated through in more detail before arriving at a position that can be taken forward. Then discussions on tactics start, petitions, lobbies, leaflets etc.

What do the anti union, me first brigade do, manipulate him into thinking we are going to steal his ideas, that ideas to progress the industry could obtain a copyright and that the way to progress this is individually, the same approach that has worked so well for the industry up to now.

The vested self interest of the brainless, self interested minority in manipulating a lad like this is far more cynical and evil than any of our joking and larking about.

Finally I didn't quite get the point you made about third world countries and like coming back to one, wouldn't be a racist undertone there would there. You won't be seeing many ministers if you carry on like that.

Cynical racists who manipulate others less fortunate for their own ends.

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08 Feb 2008 11:47 AM Alert 

 

Slc this is a taxi forum ffs not just a site for the gmb revolutionary's, you can not please people all of the time but as you have stated and reading between the lines you do seem to be heading  in the right direction if you listen to minority points as well as the majority then and only then will you achieve anything for the common taxi driver ie,the independents BUT AND ITS A VERY BIG BUT up until now the gmb have still not proved anything of a substantial nature for the good of the independents and i doubt very much they ever will,but you could tell me otherwise i have no doubt.

So there we have it can you prove any common ground.without a promiscuous womanging match as it is becoming very childish insults flying to and fro lets start a fresh and be honest it makes sence dont you agree.

 

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08 Feb 2008 2:19 PM Alert 

Look I am quite happy to have a sensible debate but really if you cannot see the advantages of union membership to my mind it is absolutely and utterly beyond belief.

 

There are two types of person not in the union nowadays, those who through no fault of their own do not know or have been poisoned with anti union bile. That is not their fault and then there are the low lives anti union degenerates who rail against the unions because of their own vested self interest. Isolated, misguided and confused workers are far easier to exploit when they are not in a union. That applies to Building workers, factory workers and yes, us Taxi and Private Hire workers.

 

Unions whether they are trade, industry or general are reformist not revolutionary and I was working on the basis that we all want to see reforms that improve the industry.

 

Starting from the lowest point as far as unions are concerned we have what I refer to as trinket trade unionism where this that and the other special deals on cheaper mortgages etc are sold as the reason to belong. In general I vehemently disagree with promoting this type of issue to anything over and above a minor bolt on.

 

The issue is that with our branch it is different in that most of us are self employed workers, working under the direction of the company. Therefore some of the deals that Terry has achieved in relation to cost effective purchasing of vehicles, insurance and accountancy services are just like a union getting a wage rise in PAYE jobs.

 

In order of ascendancy next there is the legal issue. Before anyone points out that the law is not there to benefit working people that may be the case but we must use it to our maximum advantage. Christ knows how many outstanding tribunals we have, if we develop the legal work further and in conjunction with effective union organisation we will have trained stewards and the legal back up required to advise and in some cases represent members at court or in front of licensing authorities.

 

Then there is the political issues i.e. in London gaining access to the bus lanes for picking up and dropping of, the congestion charge exemption, our Southern branch could tell you about what is being done on a certain council to ensure the safety of the public by taking contracts away from those not fit and proper to run them and awarding them to those who are.

 

The national political scene is also vital and as you know only to well GMB will be meeting the Minister to talk about O licenses and chauffer hours.

 

There is the safety campaign and the campaign to deliver real basic skills training opportunities for our members.

 

None of this is as important as the backbone and heart that has been shown by a number of drivers this year, for example in Wolverhampton, when drivers came out on strike to improve conditions.

 

You cannot blame the union people on this site if the anti union brigade vomit their bile and then run away leaving a kid to argue for them.

 

You know this is the case and you know that this union (which incidentally is its members) could help transform this industry for the better so there are no excuses from now on.

 

Taxi's I am sorry if I hurt your feelings son, you’ve got heart and backbone and if we sorted out how everyone who is genuine in this trade could go forward as one, your ideas could really start going places and improving things.

 

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08 Feb 2008 5:58 PM Alert 
Now if i were cynic i would predict a response but just maybe???????????????????????????


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09 Feb 2008 10:17 PM Alert 
OBVIOUSLY INCAPABLE OF A COHESIVE RESPONSE ARE WE SUPRISED---------------NAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MUGS ARE A HANDICAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PETITION?????????????????????????

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14 Feb 2008 12:28 PM Alert 
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 09 Feb 2008 10:17 PM
OBVIOUSLY INCAPABLE OF A COHESIVE RESPONSE ARE WE SUPRISED---------------NAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MUGS ARE A HANDICAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PETITION?????????????????????????


FFS Flanagan you are a chancer you cant spell either why are we not SURPRISED..................

SLC as you say to your mind it is absolutely and utterly beyond belief that you push the union forward the way you do quite understandable really

,However is the question too hard.

 

WHAT HAS THE GMB DONE FOR THE INDEPENDENT HACKNEY DRIVER ?????

but please do not patronise me again as i have already stated in many threads do not pull the wool over my eyes i have hair on my head not wool.

 

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14 Feb 2008 4:28 PM Alert 
RIP Charlie.

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14 Feb 2008 5:42 PM Alert 
Charlie your question is ludicrous.
The GMB works for their members, not for independent people who are not members.
However there is always a ripple effect of any changes which all members of the industry will benefit from even if they decide to not join.
This is alas always the case that the people who join and support unions and achieve improvements in the industry effectively support and subsidise the independents who do not.
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14 Feb 2008 8:13 PM Alert 
i dont know about the gmb or any other taxi unions i can omly truelly comment on our exsperiences in rossendale, we were all single drivers and small out fits runing on some of the lowest tarifs in the country and doing every thing we were told by our council and licensing department with out question, OH YEH we moaned and groaned to one another and put up with the crap until the penny dropped as a single person you aint gona make change as a group people listen they may not agree but they listen, its a start. and thats what they did with us eventually they started to invite us to meetings ask us our thoughts and listend to the people in the trade who know what works and how it works im a new member on here so i dont wana upset people but the trade does need unions or asscosiations whatever you want to call them, who joins what is there own choice ive been at both ends and i know where im beter off

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15 Feb 2008 2:55 PM Alert 
Fox precisely, and we agree that organisation is the future, what you will find on here are some who want to be-little any organisation, they normally do it from behind an alias, for what purpose or with what intent they are incapable of explaining. Or perhaps they dont know? Your experiences are are reflected across the nation, we say take it one step further share those experiences, exchange information, work together for mutual benefit. We the GMB can and do access Govt at the highest level, you can be part of that, as are our members from Brighton and Lancashire next week when we meet Rosie Winterton aTransport Minister. This avenue was not available to them without GMB membership!
If a Driver believes hes better off on his own SO BE IT!!!!!!!!!!

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21 Feb 2008 12:53 AM Alert 

So precisely what have you managed to do for the independent taxi driver ? ? ? ? is the question toooooo hard

 

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21 Feb 2008 1:01 AM Alert 
Eh Charlie, if you are an Independent then there is no reason for you to expect any organisation to do things for you.
Now if you were a member and actually paid your dues then you could ask a similar question.
You can download an application form at:-http://www.gmbprofessionaldriversbranch.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=27&sid=7a92318b8932c0afa7d71b6c3e424d28
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21 Feb 2008 8:41 AM Alert 

allo allo you thick head please read the beginning statement before you open your mouth and come out with an idiotic reply.

Excuse me once again is the question toooo hard for yoooou  ? ? ? ? Christ sake i have forgot now how many times i have asked the question obviously they cannot answer because they have done sweet feck hall

 

Still never mind all this site is for the gmb is a recruitment tool ? ? ?    pmsl...................

 

 

 

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21 Feb 2008 8:43 AM Alert 
Posted By Charlie on 21 Dec 2007 6:09 AM

Why do taxi drivers succumb to being duped ripped off by paying contributions to unions that have no status in the taxi trade.They would be more advised to pay into there own slush fund made up of friends and colleagues they work with on the ranks.or form there own association to speak to l/a on local issues.The GMB can do nothing for H/C drivers except take membership under false representation 

Charlie


HERE YOU GO allo allo recruitment

 

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21 Feb 2008 9:58 AM Alert 
I'm not going to argue with you Charlie.

You know what Unions can do for members, if you choose to not join the GMB that is your decision.
I chose to join and am very satisfied with my decision.
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21 Feb 2008 12:37 PM Alert 

Aaarrgh thats fine allo allo thank you for your reply,although no matter how many avenues the gmb go down my original question still to this day has not been answered.

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22 Feb 2008 5:04 PM Alert 
Re your question, Charlie:-
However there is always a ripple effect of any changes which all members of the industry will benefit from even if they decide to not join.
This is alas always the case that the people who join and support unions and achieve improvements in the industry effectively support and subsidise the independents who do not.
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22 Feb 2008 7:13 PM Alert 
Allo allo correct of course, at the moment ! but only until we start agreeing closed shop agreements.Interesingly at that time we could REFUSE membership to certain persons. Parasites and freeloaders not welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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23 Feb 2008 1:37 AM Alert 

You would recruit a dying dog with a rotten fish in its mouth if you thought you could get subs from it.

LOL.....

Anyways you can not do that.....Your rule book says you have to recruit at every possible chance...

Well that’s me refused then....hehehehehehehe
Then again he did not say Independent Taxi drivers ....so I might have a chance...

Oh is that me speaking out loud ???? NO
JUST TAKING THE  "   "

 

Or you talking yet old farty arse ?   Or do you still get wrong ?

 


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