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22 Oct 2007 6:04 PM Alert 

New laws could close bus service

 

SPECIALISED bus services for schoo-lchildren with special needs are facing the axe.

Private operators who provide the service under contract to the council say new legislation will almost certainly force them out of business.

EA Beck Specialist Transport Services is one of five Wirral companies whose current council contracts will end unless all of their drivers are licensed as taxi drivers.

In order to qualify, all drivers will have to take a knowledge test and each vehicle would have to be maintained and re-registered for £500 every year. Everyone applying for jobs will be subject to rigorous police checks.

It is all part of a Government drive to improve public safety across the country.

But Edward Beck, owner of the Hoylake-based company, fears that the new legislation will mean he has to close the business with the loss of more than 60 jobs.

He told the Globe: "I've said that I'll shut the doors in January and I'm prepared to do that, because this law would cost me an extra £30,000 a year to run and I cannot afford this. It's a money-making exercise for the council.

"At the moment we have 55 contracts with the council and they have admitted that they cannot survive without the service we provide.

All the vehicles are purpose-built for children, with space for wheelchairs.

"We don't do taxi work, all we do is school runs and so it's only part-time work. So once this law becomes effective, our staff could go off and do taxi work for more money. It's going to be devastating.

"I'll have a big yellow sticker on the side of all my vehicles which reads School Bus only if it helps us get the message across."

The change in the law will also affect A2B Travel in Prenton, Destinations Travel in Bebington, Playa Travel and C&P Travel.

Parents have reacted angrily to the new regulations, writing to Wirral's licensing department in protest at what will be the loss of a valuable children's service.

Hoylake Conservative councillor John Hale said: "I'm trying to find out how much of this change has been brought in as an act of Parliament and how much of it are policies brought in by Wirral's licensing department.

"Mr Beck's is the biggest company involved, but I really sympathise with all those companies affected by this, because it seems that that they are being badly hit."

Wirral Council cabinet member for children's services and Lifelong Learning Cllr Phil Davies said: "Following changes in Government legislation, from January 2008 vehicles that are currently exempt from licensing due to the fact that they are engaged on contracts lasting at least seven days, will have to be licensed.

"In the run up to that time, the council has been and will strive to continue to work with the special needs transport providers here in Wirral - who fall into this category - to ensure that the current workforce meet the new requirements."

http://www.thisiswirral.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1730027.mostcommented.new_laws_could_close_bus_service.php

WORRIED: John Watson, manager of EA Beck, the firm may be forced to close with the loss of 60 jobs
WORRIED: John Watson, manager of EA Beck, the firm may be forced to close with the loss of 60

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22 Oct 2007 7:44 PM Alert 
Good unlicensed non criminal record checked scum, that pollute our industry, shut them down immediatley, this is as a result of GMB pressure!
there is no room for such outfits in transport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AGITATE ORGANISE EDUCATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEATH TO "O" LICENCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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22 Oct 2007 8:51 PM Alert 
I support terry on this issue as indeed do many licensed operators.it seems that the licensing authorities,will now have to seek new ways of providing transport to vunerable groups.The way to do this is to use fully checked crb processed and licensed operators,obviously this will require negotiations and costings,and will need rates to be increased.Why should these contracts be given to companies who are using un-checked drivers, purely to increase the profit margins.role on january mr,Beck you have had fair warning ,if you wish to stay in business then submit to the change in regulations.THE GMB UNiON has lobbied for these changes on behalf of the vunerable groups, and for licensed drivers of hack/phvs who should be doing this kind of work.DONTthink that the council cannot operate with-out you.THEY CAN by using our members services.
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22 Oct 2007 9:26 PM Alert 
So once this law becomes effective, our staff could go off and do taxi work for more money. It's going to be devastating.






wouldnt anyone prefer to work for more money doing same job ?




as for devastating ? it will be for the ones paying minimum wage


while they [EA Beck Specialist Transport Services ] take home a nice hefty wedge off the back of the drivers and the drivers are scrimping by



the sooner this is brought in the better








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22 Oct 2007 9:43 PM Alert 

The Touble with local authoritys, they will get the cheapest people in regardless of standards, they don't give a toss down our way.

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22 Oct 2007 10:38 PM Alert 
BB perhaps, but at least the passengers will be secure from abuse,its up to yuo to secure a decent rate for job or simply walk away.IF all operators did same then local authority will have to pay decent rate espescially if they set tarrif for metered journeys

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22 Oct 2007 11:40 PM Alert 
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 22 Oct 2007 7:44 PM
Good unlicensed non criminal record checked scum, that pollute our industry, shut them down immediatley, this is as a result of GMB pressure!
there is no room for such outfits in transport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AGITATE ORGANISE EDUCATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEATH TO "O" LICENCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Well Terry I agree 100% here.
But I don't want to describe them as scum...lol...
I can't agree more !
If it was my kids been transported I would insist that the driver and escort was CRB checked.
( As all my escorts are now )
I mean these operators could have any bloody history and have committed any offence....we as parents need to be sure
that the man taking our kids to school are not "inmates that have been released from the paedophile wing"
I mean all us drivers are CRB checked, and licenced and now also checked again by the departments giving the contract work out.
Yep we have a lot of badges....

But it has to be this way ! Terry agreed. 10/10.
Get these operators out now ! Don't feel sorry for them ! feel safe that they can NO LONGER operate as un checked people in charge of venerable children.

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23 Oct 2007 8:45 AM Alert 
( As all my escorts are now )





Mr Taxis, is your good lady aware of your night time activities, and that they involve lady's of disrepute [escorts] ?


whats the going rate in your area ?
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23 Oct 2007 8:49 AM Alert 
if these operators want to keep their contracts, all they have to do is just like anyone else become licensed operators and run by the same rules and legislation.


maybe then when the local councils have no where else to go because of the new legislation they will start to pay the going rate and everyones onto a winner


especially the customers
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23 Oct 2007 8:53 AM Alert 
Posted By urban driver on 23 Oct 2007 8:45 AM
( As all my escorts are now )





Mr Taxis, is your good lady aware of your night time activities, and that they involve lady's of disrepute [escorts] ?


whats the going rate in your area ?



Yea My good lady is one of my very own escorts ! 

As in escorting me when I transport "special need children."
When you are approved to do contract work on behalf of local authority some
of the contract require you to have an assistant in-case you encounter difficulty with the passengers.( Named as Escorts )
The Escorts have to go through the same authority check as the driver.

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23 Oct 2007 9:57 AM Alert 
Note the TORY VERMIN CLLR supporting unlicensed companies, typical of these SCUM! did you vote for these c-nts?????????????
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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23 Oct 2007 10:04 AM Alert 
UNITY AT LAST,lets keep on fighting these++++ as long as is required to secure a safer envoiroment for all concerned.PASS THE WORD AROUND,and tell all your customers about this horrendous situation lets put it in the public domain ,send details to your local news paper, do it anonymously if you are concerned about come back

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