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Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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27/11/2007 10:42 PM  

This post might end up a bit huge but I will show the system I have installed and works 100% as I wanted a system to work.
I fully understand that it is up to the individual what system they install and use but I hope I can share this with you and it will save you money by avoiding
 you buying less inferior equipment as I have done in the past.

First off all I installed a 12v stand alone 4 channel DVR recorder fitted with a 250 gig hard drive in a secure location that is out of sight>
Pic shows seat slid back so DVR can be viewed in this picture.

I then install this type of Mini camera ( Works in pitch black dark ) they simply fix in to place and then run the wire "tucked" into headlining and behind door rubbers.
So No wire is on show...this is important.

All wiring comes with this camera.
They take about 20 mins max to install and you end up with the camera leads where ever you are going to install the DVR recorder.
Here is a view that has been highlighted to show a two camera system

I have also added a 3.5inch monitor to this system once again installed in a place that will not restrict normal driving or distract the driver at night
Always remember to conceal all wiring so it is 100% out of sight ( This is a very important issue )
Note the monitor can be turned off separate to the system with no effect to recording ability.

Notice in this picture there is only 2 cameras working and 2 deactivated.
This can be changed in the DVR menu....Close up

You can choose to view a single camera at one time in full screen or switch to quad mode !

The whole system can be operated by remote control from the drivers normal position
And the whole system can be turned on or off by simply installing a concealed switch that can be discreetly operated by the driver.

You MUST have all access points of the vehicle clearly marked with stickers saying words to the effect of.....

I have them on all windows All doors front screen and rear tailgate.

Please take into account that these systems are very simple to install and fit yourself.
BUT you do have to link into the cars 12 system ( You know like your radio wire )...so if you are
unsure please contact your local auto sparky and he will run a 12 live for you or assist with installation of this system.

Regards Steve

Cameras Maplin Electronics.
DVR recorders with 250 gig HDD...Ebay
Monitor....Maplin Electronics

Its easy.....

hopper

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28/11/2007 09:46 AM  

Thanks for that Steve, that looks like a good workman like setup. I hope it encourages drivers that feel at risk to invest in a similar system 

DavidG

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01/12/2007 01:22 PM  
whats was the total cost Steve of your system compared to others out there offering similiar set up ?
ian4verifeye

TF Trainee

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17/12/2007 12:31 PM  
Steve

How do you get to access the pictures? If there was an attack would the police accept tem as evidence?
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON

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17/12/2007 08:25 PM  
Cant see that being passed by the PCO.
Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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19/12/2007 09:13 PM  
Posted By ian4verifeye on 17 Dec 2007 12:31 PM
Steve

How do you get to access the pictures? If there was an attack would the police accept tem as evidence?

 

You can view / copy or delete all footage via a PC..( USB lead ) or view / delete with monitor in cab or TV !
YES the police would of course accept the footage as evidence. The design of the system is that it takes real time footage ( NOT 10 second clips ) full uninterrupted footage.
Shows every little detail.

Better than the crappy SD card type that takes snaps !

Regards Steve
Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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19/12/2007 09:15 PM  
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 17 Dec 2007 8:25 PM
Cant see that being passed by the PCO.



Why Terry ? I could only think of 2 things !
1, They have not sold it to me or told me where to go.

2, Because it outclasses the type of system the councils recommend.

Steve

Charlie

TF Student

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20/12/2007 07:32 AM  

Stevie i can see that you have invested quite a bit of time and money on this project and i can see that your the type of bloke who puts his money where his mouth is.What are your feelings of a minority group that may abuse this type of system for self gain or even worse to send footage to the likes of you tube for example.This honestly puts technology to the forefront for the police too ie;to have cctv fitted front and rear to view potential hazards and trouble spots he he pmsl coz soon as its quiet and nothing to do will the police use cctv fitted to your vehicle against you for speeding and motoring offenses. I would have no doubt what the police would do ?

My concerns are prob of no consequence to some that want to promote cctv as a selling point to gain new members on issues of safety .various organizations must have numbers to look after the freeloaders at the top ie secretary presidents chairmen ffs where does it stop.Some organizations talk the talk for our trade but in reality they are feathering there own nest while pi$$ing up our backs and getting no results with l/a because these people know fcuk all about our trade except how to disrupt it.

I honestly can think of only a few people who have successfully implemented changes for our trade and they are as follows mr t   ga  cc  jd  he he

Charlie

 

GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON

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20/12/2007 06:03 PM  
Steve your illustrations would send our SGS examiners into overdrive for AGG i think, no critiscism intended just an observation!

Lets get it straight our unions interest in this issue is to help our members obtain ther best possibble product at the best possibble price, naturally the LOs will have an influence on this.

Charlie give up trying to think , it obviously dosnt come naturally!

ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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20/12/2007 09:09 PM  
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 20 Dec 2007 6:03 PM
Steve your illustrations would send our SGS examiners into overdrive for AGG i think, no critiscism intended just an observation!

Lets get it straight our unions interest in this issue is to help our members obtain ther best possibble product at the best possibble price, naturally the LOs will have an influence on this.

Charlie give up trying to think , it obviously dosnt come naturally!

ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks Terry.
I have honestly put time and effort into research on this subject over a long time period.
I have worked close with "tekkys and police" trying to come up with a feasible system that can be used as evidence if need be.

And Terry I honestly wish you all the best of luck with your mission to promote the use of CCTV in cabs nationwide.

Regards Steve

Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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20/12/2007 10:27 PM  
Posted By Charlie on 20 Dec 2007 7:32 AM

Stevie i can see that you have invested quite a bit of time and money on this project and i can see that your the type of bloke who puts his money where his mouth is.What are your feelings of a minority group that may abuse this type of system for self gain or even worse to send footage to the likes of you tube for example.This honestly puts technology to the forefront for the police too ie;to have cctv fitted front and rear to view potential hazards and trouble spots he he pmsl coz soon as its quiet and nothing to do will the police use cctv fitted to your vehicle against you for speeding and motoring offenses. I would have no doubt what the police would do ?

My concerns are prob of no consequence to some that want to promote cctv as a selling point to gain new members on issues of safety .various organizations must have numbers to look after the freeloaders at the top ie secretary presidents chairmen ffs where does it stop.Some organizations talk the talk for our trade but in reality they are feathering there own nest while pi$$ing up our backs and getting no results with l/a because these people know fcuk all about our trade except how to disrupt it.

I honestly can think of only a few people who have successfully implemented changes for our trade and they are as follows Mr t   ga  cc  jd  he he

Charlie

 

Well WE as responsible licensed drivers should obviously know better than play about with footage.
The question about how long do we keep footage arises so we do have to address this.
And the bit you wrote.
I honestly can think of only a few people who have successfully implemented changes for our trade and they are as follows Mr t   ga  cc  jd  he he
Well , Mr T ( Trevor ) he is a real to life person who is not ashamed to reveal his identity and works well for his trade.
GA  ( Mick) he is a real to life person who is not ashamed to reveal his identity and works well for his trade and I can also say is a great mate.
CC ( Wayne ) he is a real to life person who is not ashamed to reveal his identity and works well for his trade.
BUT then you mention JD...who is he ???........ I know who he is now.( It took some research )
Why does he hide away ? ANSWER : because he is a shamed person. its sad I know but he seems to think his knowledge and intellect will overpower his shame....but will it..
I will give you a quote that sums it up.....
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike."

Steve

Charlie

TF Student

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21/12/2007 05:51 AM  

Tbh Stevie i know how much you dislike JD thats why i put the initials in with a he he.

 

Btw it looks like you are trying to use a sprat to catch a mackerel for me to give up my id but keep fishing away?

 

Do not be fooled by the gmb stance of safety issues Mr TF wouldn't really know what the fcuk hazards or potential safety hazards were you see he has no qualification on the matters not like yourself and the guys who recently completed courses at gateshead college.

 

Infact Mr TF is only happy when he is pulling the strings of his puppets.I for one will never lye down on my back roll over and let the likes of him tickle my tummy and i hope you do not either.

 

So getting back to my request of your oppinion what about the police using your cctv to incriminate yourself God forbidd

Charlie

 

All the best merry xmas to you

Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

TF MVP

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21/12/2007 02:44 PM  
Posted By Charlie on 21 Dec 2007 5:51 AM

So getting back to my request of your oppinion what about the police using your cctv to incriminate yourself God forbidd

Charlie

All the best merry xmas to you



Well I can see where you are coming from saying stored footage may incriminate drivers by having road viewing cameras. I suppose it would show if you were in the wrong at any time.
Personally I take the view it is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.
It would show when you are not at fault in the event of a collision etc: 
It will prove to be invaluable evidence for your insurance company ( the perfect witness ), If we drive to a reasonably high level and in a safe manner we should really have no fear of a system recording our driving. remember the external cameras is a optional extra so you would only fit these if you as a driver wanted it.
I think thats what you mean ?
Internal footage could not be incriminating because it should only show you doing your job "Driving" and holding conversations.

These systems or any similar systems are fitted on a voluntary basis so if you have doubt or reason to believe the system will work against you you then do not have it installed.

I think they have to many positive points not to have them installed.
To be honest I would not be without it now.

Steve

Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

TF MVP

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21/12/2007 02:52 PM  
Posted By Charlie on 21 Dec 2007 5:51 AM

Btw it looks like you are trying to use a sprat to catch a mackerel for me to give up my id but keep fishing away?

Charlie

All the best merry xmas to you



hmmmm !!! You must be a member from the other forum !
I am sure you will tell us your ID....or we could guess ?

Oh here is a letter for you to read now this might be funny
Nothing to do with this post, I just like it ......

Charlie

TF Student

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21/12/2007 04:30 PM  

If only divorce letters were funny like that my last settlement cost me £££££££££££££........

yeah and twice as much since he he .well time to go to work i will be in and out so to speak over the festive season .

Btw dont worry if you get home and your slippers are warm ha ha dont blame me !!!!!!!!!!

Charlie

GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON

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21/12/2007 08:13 PM  
Charlie no experience i twice had a knife pulled on me, and once some creep had a wire noose on him, oh yes i have been there, and we the GMBPDB s will spare no effort to protect our members. I drove for 12 years,dont lecture me mush!!

Steve its that down here the regulations relating to CCTV are considerably more explicit than on your manor. Why not present your system to PCO for authorisation??????????????

UNITED YOU ARE PROTECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie

TF Student

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22/12/2007 01:29 PM  

Maybe your attitude gets you into trouble that i have no doubt.......but alas imo cctv could not have stopped any act of violence that comes your way or infact anyones way that has attitude problems.

 

Training and increasing awareness is the answer but unfortunately you missed the band wagon your trying to jump on

 

Btw I'm too old of a cat to be shagged by a kitten Mr sec so take your views of the gmb and stick em where the sun dont shine...........you have no influence on taxi matters or local issues your union is full of false promises be honest with yourself and stop taking contributions from unsuspecting taxi drivers.You may however take money from p/h desk staff and controllers but some kind driver that gets fed off p/h staff will always be at hand to help em out as this is normally the case.

Dear-ie me sun you do need to get a grip as your not switched on at all ie the lights on but no ones in

 

Charlie

Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

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22/12/2007 04:45 PM  
Posted By Charlie on 22 Dec 2007 1:29 PM

Maybe your attitude gets you into trouble that i have no doubt.......but alas imo cctv could not have stopped any act of violence that comes your way or infact anyones way that has attitude problems.

Training and increasing awareness is the answer

Charlie



Hello.
CCTV will more than likely never stop any act of violence towards drivers !
But it may make it easier to catch your attacker.
Training and awareness will more than likely never stop any act of violence towards drivers !

These are factors that I am all for because I reckon that there is more good points than bad points to come from these aspects.

You have made a very simple but good point Charlie  " Drivers Attitude ".
Its easy to make a nutter go bazerk but with the correct approach and attitude you can defuse the situation and bring them down to earth a little whilst in your car. ( Most of the time )
I can honestly say this ( I showed Bandit how it worked ) I had a passenger that began a kick off about the meter been turned on saying he simply was not paying the fare and he was going bazerker....lol
Well then he realized the cameras were in the car.....so I explained it was alright and I have no problem with him not wanting to pay a fare because not only is the journey been recorded it is also been relayed via satellite to a base and other people are viewing the situation.
He more or less instantly settled down got to the end of his journey and paid with a big apology.
So that time the presence of CCTV worked well ( I know I told a few porkies to make him think...lol )

Regards Steve

GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON

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22/12/2007 04:46 PM  
Charlie many thanks for above post!
NEVER GIVE A MUG AN EVEN BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxis
"The Independent Taxi Driver"

TF MVP

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22/12/2007 05:00 PM  
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 22 Dec 2007 4:46 PM
Charlie many thanks for above post!
NEVER GIVE A MUG AN EVEN BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or even the post 2 above ....lol
Just been picky Terry just kidding

 

Steve

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